Dance Macabre requirements

Hakuron wrote:

Ben suggests that the organiser brings along enough good printouts (and some scissors). This way "good Danse Macabre printouts" would be our new promo cards. Well, why not? But how much is enough? And is this really the way how it should be?

According to the tournament rules, anyone using cards from a PDF expansion must use full-color printouts. In practice (as we've seen), most will do so and a few won't. Rather than make a mountain out of a molehill with respect to adherence to tournament rules, it'd be useful for a tournament organizer to bring enough full-color copies of the cards to cover one person who didn't follow the rules. That would amount to 6 copies of the crypt card PDFs and 10-12 copies of the library card PDFs. For Danse Macabre, that would be 42 total pages. That's probably 20 bucks at Kinko's.

Is that how it should be? As in, is it unfair that you would have to spend 20 bucks on behalf of someone unwilling to do this themself? I dunno...is it worth $20 to not have a silly argument? Make them buy you a couple beers or something for the favor. Or be happy knowing you're the hero.

BenPeal wrote:

would be 42 total pages. That's probably 20 bucks at Kinko's.

Has anyone done this yet? That is, gone to to Kinko's and printed the PDFs. (out on the West Cosat of the States Kinko's is now FedEx Office) I ask because I went to print them out and I was told they won't print copyrighted material. I tried to explain but they weren't having it. What should I tell them? I don't know if this is the norm or if I happened to visit the FedEx office with the employees with wild hair up there .......!

As of yet, I haven't had time to try another store.

TorranceCircle wrote:

BenPeal wrote:

would be 42 total pages. That's probably 20 bucks at Kinko's.

Has anyone done this yet? That is, gone to to Kinko's and printed the PDFs. (out on the West Cosat of the States Kinko's is now FedEx Office) I ask because I went to print them out and I was told they won't print copyrighted material. I tried to explain but they weren't having it. What should I tell them? I don't know if this is the norm or if I happened to visit the FedEx office with the employees with wild hair up there .......!

As of yet, I haven't had time to try another store.

I visited a local print shop in my town and specified in my emails, that the cards are fan made and approved by copyright holders, and had no problems with it. Maybe you should try a different company?

TorranceCircle wrote:

I ask because I went to print them out and I was told they won't print copyrighted material. I tried to explain but they weren't having it.

Oh man, what a mess!
All good and proper but all effed up as well...

TorranceCircle wrote:

What should I tell them?

After the kind explanations I probably wouldä've told them to shove it and taken my business to another printer.

All things considered, I'd asked if they have web access and then directed them to the page here where the prints are found.

Pascal wrote:

a-e wrote:

Still, as you are rules director of this game, you should not agree when you are asked as a player to let others to use b&w prints. According to previous posts, that was asked from all the players present in that tournament.

Imo you can't support the rules only when you're organizer or judge and don't give a damn about them when you are just a player.

Tournament Rules, 2.6: "The head judge is the final judicial authority at any V:EKN-sanctioned tournament (see section 2.5 - Judge Responsibilities)."
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Tournament Rules, 2.7: "The head judge's decision is final."


Given the fact that a judgement had already been given by the head judge when I was made aware of the situation at the event, my position of Rules Director couldn't interact with the decision given.

Then I got it wrong from Dennis' post, assuming that this was asked from all players before the first round and judgement was made after everyone agreed.