Correct time to use Heidelberg Castle, Germany for non acting player
08 Jun 2021 13:59 #102425
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Correct time to use Heidelberg Castle, Germany for non acting player
Correct. There is a window after action resolution to use effects that are "not usable during an action". Sequencing during that window follows the impulse rule as usual.You can use it after the resolution of an action.
(Check the rulings collected in the Codex of the Damned of reference: codex-of-the-damned.org/en/card-search.html?card=Heidelberg+Castle%2C+Germany)
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09 May 2022 08:31 - 09 May 2022 08:31 #105221
by Ankha
A has to give the opportunity (=> impulse) to other players to use their Heidelberg Castle, yes.
Replied by Ankha on topic Correct time to use Heidelberg Castle, Germany for non acting player
No.Does this in-between actions window exist only after an action?
No. Those are about performing an action.Can Enkil Cog or Madness Network be used in this in-between actions window?
Does this in-between action window mean that the player whose turn it is need to pass the impulse twice to move to the influence phase (i.e. A passes after an action the "in-between action window" impulse where all other also pass and then A passes that no more actions are to be taken where all others also pass)?
A has to give the opportunity (=> impulse) to other players to use their Heidelberg Castle, yes.
Yes.Can HC be used as the first thing done in a minion phase?
Yes.Can HC be used as the only thing done in a minion phase?
Yes.Can HC be used as the last thing done in a minion phase?
Used by who? If the active player passes, it means he doesn't use the HC they have (unless they get back the impulse during the minion phase). But if another player controls the HC, he must be allowed to use it.Can HC be used if the player whose turn it is does nothing and passes the impulse to move to the influence phase?
Yes.Can HC be used in phases other than the minion phase (i.e. master, influence, and discard phase)?
Yes, as long as there's no ongoing action.Can one wait to decide to use HC till after the player whose turn it is has passed impulse declaring no more actions to be taken?
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09 May 2022 12:58 #105224
by Ankha
Also, A can use their HC after their last action.
Replied by Ankha on topic Correct time to use Heidelberg Castle, Germany for non acting player
No, you could use The Barrens for instance.
Can only "in-between actions" effects be used in this window?
No. Those are about performing an action.Can Enkil Cog or Madness Network be used in this in-between actions window?
It's not a rule question.Are HC and Journal of Hrorsh currently the only 2 cards with "in-between actions" effects in the game?
Indeed.
My question might not have been so clear, sorry. Trying again below;
Does this in-between action window mean that the player whose turn it is need to pass the impulse twice to move to the influence phase (i.e. A passes after an action the "in-between action window" impulse where all other also pass and then A passes that no more actions are to be taken where all others also pass)?
A has to give the opportunity (=> impulse) to other players to use their Heidelberg Castle, yes.
The question is, when player A has just taken his "last" action, whether A would need to first pass the impulse for the "in-between action" window around the table (where all pass and the impulse returns to A) and then A needs to pass the impulse for "action taking" around the table (where again no one does anything) to be able to move to the next stage i.e move to the influence phase, effectively only after having passed the impulse "twice" (once for the "in-between actions" window and once for the "action taking" window) without doing anything?
That's how the impulse work, yes.In the above example if player C did use HC and then the impulse returns to A, does A have to again pass the impulse around the table for the "in-between actions" window (enabling, B and C a new opportunity, and D and E their first opportunity to use the "in-between actions" window) before A can pass the impulse for the "action taking" window (where no one does anything) to move to the influence phase?
Yes. It's the same question as above.
Sorry again if the question wasn´t clear.
Used by who? If the active player passes, it means he doesn't use the HC they have (unless they get back the impulse during the minion phase). But if another player controls the HC, he must be allowed to use it.Can HC be used if the player whose turn it is does nothing and passes the impulse to move to the influence phase?
When a player does nothing in his minion phase does he first need to pass the impulse for the "in-between actions" window and then after it has gone around the table (with no one doing anything) then pass the impulse for the "action taking" window to move to the influence phase?
Yes. A can use the HC before any action during their minion phase.The above insinuates that the "in-between actions" window is the very first window in the minion phase, is this correct?
When they get the impulse. HC has no restriction during other phases, since there are no actions during those phases.
When do the players other than the player whose turn it is get the impulse to be able to use HC?
Yes.Can HC be used in phases other than the minion phase (i.e. master, influence, and discard phase)?
Indeed, you have it wrong. Impulse passes around each time A declines to use it (for whatever reason). For instance, another player can use a burn option during A's unlock phase, even if A doesn't do anything. Or Giotto Verducci's controller can discard a card during the discard phase of another player even if that player doesn't discard any card.I was under the impression that the only time in the above-mentioned phases that the impulse is passed around was when the player whose turn it is actually plays a card, enabling only the "as it is played" effects to be played, do I have this wrong?
Using the impulse or not using it to declare an action doesn't change anything: HC can be used after someone has declared an action, or everyone has declined declaring an action.
YesCan HC be used as the last thing done in a minion phase?
Don´t know if my question wasn´t clear or not but wouldn´t the above two be a reversal of this ruling [LSJ 20090209] ?
Yes, as long as there's no ongoing action.Can one wait to decide to use HC till after the player whose turn it is has passed impulse declaring no more actions to be taken?
Doesn´t a minion phase have to end with impulse being passed around without any actions being taken and cannot end at the end of passing the impulse for the "in between actions" window?
Also, A can use their HC after their last action.
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