Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat
21 Nov 2023 20:55 #109888
by beslin igor
Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat was created by beslin igor
Haqim's Law: Retribution
Put this card in play. During a bleed action, an Banu Haqim you control can discard a combat card to get +1 bleed.
One player claim how him can use efect Haqim's Law: Retribution during combat,so just for cycle,him can discard card during combat. if that posible?
If is answer yes,many action modifier have same key word (During a bleed action) as Haqim's Law: Retribution,so if is answer yes,can we then play also during combat(after block bleed): Confusion, Bonding, Conditioning......and many other increase bleed cards?
Put this card in play. During a bleed action, an Banu Haqim you control can discard a combat card to get +1 bleed.
One player claim how him can use efect Haqim's Law: Retribution during combat,so just for cycle,him can discard card during combat. if that posible?
If is answer yes,many action modifier have same key word (During a bleed action) as Haqim's Law: Retribution,so if is answer yes,can we then play also during combat(after block bleed): Confusion, Bonding, Conditioning......and many other increase bleed cards?
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22 Nov 2023 13:08 - 24 Nov 2023 14:14 #109896
by inm8
No, it is not possible.
One cannot use a bleed modifier during a non-bleed action/step....combat is not a bleed action/step and HLR is only useable During a bleed action as a modifier effect.
Here groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/iRQcAXMl7aY/YMhwNvcDs5QJ is a ruling (on Bonding) that makes it clear that one cannot use a bleed modifier effect on a non-bleed action
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Banu Haqim
Put this card in play. During a bleed action, a Banu Haqim you control can discard a combat card to get +1 bleed.
Replied by inm8 on topic Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat
One player claim how him can use efect Haqim's Law: Retribution during combat,so just for cycle,him can discard card during combat. if that posible?
If is answer yes,many action modifier have same key word (During a bleed action) as Haqim's Law: Retribution,so if is answer yes,can we then play also during combat(after block bleed): Confusion, Bonding, Conditioning......and many other increase bleed cards?
No, it is not possible.
Here groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/iRQcAXMl7aY/YMhwNvcDs5QJ is a ruling (on Bonding) that makes it clear that one cannot use a bleed modifier effect on a non-bleed action
Haqim's Law: Retribution
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Banu Haqim
Put this card in play. During a bleed action, a Banu Haqim you control can discard a combat card to get +1 bleed.
Last edit: 24 Nov 2023 14:14 by inm8.
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22 Nov 2023 13:31 #109897
by Khaan
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Replied by Khaan on topic Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat
I believe we had a ruling during the Barcelona EC that this was allowed. But I would await official response from Ankha.
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22 Nov 2023 15:43 - 22 Nov 2023 15:44 #109900
by Timo
An official ruling has already been provided by Ankha :
www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/79757-haqim-s-law-retribution-and-anu-diptinatpa#105140
A minion in combat is not a bleeding minion. Even if it is a combat resulting from the block of a bleed action.
Replied by Timo on topic Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat
I believe we had a ruling during the Barcelona EC that this was allowed. But I would await official response from Ankha.
An official ruling has already been provided by Ankha :
www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/79757-haqim-s-law-retribution-and-anu-diptinatpa#105140
You cannot give a bleed boost to non-bleeding minion.
A minion in combat is not a bleeding minion. Even if it is a combat resulting from the block of a bleed action.
Last edit: 22 Nov 2023 15:44 by Timo.
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22 Nov 2023 16:57 #109901
by inm8
Replied by inm8 on topic Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat
I was sure i had seen it being ruled and even after searching i missed and did see that thread
Thanks for finding it Timo
Thanks for finding it Timo
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22 Nov 2023 22:21 #109903
by lip
Replied by lip on topic Haqim's Law: Retribution - efect during combat
This ruling does not apply directly: it’s saying a non-acting minion cannot use retribution.
If the minion is bleeding and gets blocked, he’s acting, so it’s another case.
Combat is part of the action so I don’t see why you couldn’t use Reribution. It says « during a bleed action », which it is, because combat is part of the action.
If the minion is bleeding and gets blocked, he’s acting, so it’s another case.
Combat is part of the action so I don’t see why you couldn’t use Reribution. It says « during a bleed action », which it is, because combat is part of the action.
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