Lilith's Blessing... a poor NYC prince simple question

Reyda wrote:

the only deck where I won't automatically include Lilith would be an Imbued deck

Even if it were unique ?

Reyda wrote:

the only deck where I won't automatically include Lilith would be an Imbued deck

Yet none of your tournament winning decks have it if I'm not mistaken ^^, you did say they were not your best though.

Overall I think that Xaddam has explained very well why lilith's blessing isn't too good. I encourage anyone who does pack it in every deck to try without it and instead put in masters meant only to oust and see how it feels.

Surreal wrote:

My main thing with Lilith is that rewards you to go 0 blood which should not be encouraged.

Jake Washington does exactly the same, though, and has never been a problem.

Non-existant user wrote:

Surreal wrote:

My main thing with Lilith is that rewards you to go 0 blood which should not be encouraged.

Jake Washington does exactly the same, though, and has never been a problem.

yeah, but Jake is unique, and burns after you use him. Also, he is useable only in untap phase, so no synergy with blood dolls/ villeins.

Also , he can be stolen, or killed. Lilith's blessing is not even a location. It is Jake on steroids, basically.

Ashur wrote:

Reyda wrote:

Sorry my friend, no offense but i just stopped reading at this point since it came clear that you never saw the card in action.

Try reading what he writes and answer why he´s wrong instead of going on like this.

Now that the card is banned, the discussion may seem a bit moot, but if I reacted like this, it's because I read Xaddam's claim that most of the time Lilith will probably be used once. (and hence will generate 3 blood/pool)

Sorry if I sounded like a prick but what I see is so different. Hence the " you clearly never saw the card in action".
By "see the card in action" I really meant, the card being abused : most of the time it I saw it, it has generated 6 to 12 pool by just sitting there, ready to be tapped whenever you need it.
I can recall at least one tournament where I was playing Ahrimane wall / Smiling Jack. Both preys had Lilith in play and they managed to survive 2 whole turns against a 4 then 5 pointer smiling jack without spending a single pool. And the vampires did not have to hunt until very late in the game.
As I said earlier, I never tried to play a "you don't know this game" card on Xaddam, but his theory that Lilith is ok since it will generate 3 pool seemed like he never saw it in action. It's a bit annoying to justify everything ( but that's what I'm doing here) but I want to highlight the fact that dismissing an argument is NOT the same as dismissing a player. I know also some poor players which have very insightful opinions on a given game, so the opposite must also be true, especially when we are talking about a single card in a pool of hundreds.
Well I am done, feel free to throw well aimed cars in my general direction

Shard wrote:

Put this card in play. As your first master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari.

Wedge, this is the first thing I thought of too. It does away with the villein combo and it limits using it multiple times in one turn. I suspect Pascal and the playtesters have already thought of this. If they haven't, then let it be known we have the answer.