Stepping down from the Design Team

@Pascal Bertrand : I know that, but it won't prevent people from accepting a fan set if they believe it add a lot to the game. Or refusing both set. Not everything is VEKN-sanctioned.

Brum wrote:

@Ohlmann: one of the issues I see with your plan is the hours and hours that lots of people already put into the project.

Well, we have three people who have already been cheated of their effort - and nobody say they were doing nothing. Cheating everybody is harsh, but at least it don't feel like favoritism.

johannes wrote:

Uh, I think you are maybe confusing things here. There is a) Ben Peal as the DT leader. They were unable to work together with Ben for reasons I still cannot follow. Then b) the Inner Circle (and not me personally) was asked to sort the thing out by Jeff/Carl/Eric.

I said your name as "the one who speak on behalf of the inner circle", because I see you as this. The idea is that they are most likely failure both on the J/C/E part and on inner circle + Ben part. And I think both of thoses parties will try to hide some ugly deeds.

They may even not be aware of theirs own problems. It's often hard for someone to realize being obnoxious, doing favoritism, or trying to hog the glory or something like that. I can totally believe that everyone involved is trying to do is best without seeing its own fault.

(that's part of the reason for wich undiscrimate blame is sometime good)

Ohlmann wrote:

Well, we have three people who have already been cheated of their effort - and nobody say they were doing nothing. Cheating everybody is harsh, but at least it don't feel like favoritism.

How it all seemed to me:
- [Stuff] happen that made 3 DT members feel betrayed. If [Stuff] gave them good reason, if they also helped to create [Stuff], if it was all a big miss understanding or freak accident of nature is irrelevant (at this stage!). It happened and they feel the way they do.
- They left. VEKN didn't expel them.
They felt they had no choice. That is very clear. But it is quite different than being fired.
In this I don't understand how you consider going on with the project looks like favoritism.

It seems to me that what you propose is for the VEKN to do something that might produce in hundreds of people the same feeling that those three gentlemen have.

Shifting from the problem to the solution:
- Is the VEKN making sure that the individual expertise of each of the departing members are fully restored in the DT?
On this stage I feel it is important for VEKN IC to describe how.
- Is the IC considering to study this whole process and take all that has happened into account in future Expansion Designs? Please do this after the release of this one and not before.

This hardship and the way they deal with might be VEKN IC's greatest achievement ever. Or it might be a missed opportunity.
You know, the old cliché that hardship is the best opportunity for growth and learning.

Tiago