Ideas for crypt Sabbat cards

Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to be attempting to push the powercurve up. I really have a major problem with power-creep in a game that ostensibly is supposed to allow any grouping of vampires to compete with each other.

Regarding Karl in particular...

He suddenly negates the drawback of a potentially large number of non-unique vampires and can influence out those at a rate of 1 per turn (without using transfers). There are plenty of ways to pump up his blood regain rate... The Rack for starters. He'd have the ability to defend it and with all of those little Madmen around, he could hit for 4+ without playing a card. I think he's more dangerous than he seems purely because he is the star of his own deck, like the Unnamed is. Consequently, I can concede he should probably have more disciplines (maybe or or even ... at some mixture) but I don't think he should be less than a 10-cap.

Menele has 4 disciplines at superior and 2 at inferior.

This guy may has: and one of these options:

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Inyor wrote:

Menele has 4 disciplines at superior and 2 at inferior.

This guy may has: and one of these options:

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From those 3 options, I would pick Thaumaturgy.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Don't take this the wrong way, but you seem to be attempting to push the powercurve up. I really have a major problem with power-creep in a game that ostensibly is supposed to allow any grouping of vampires to compete with each other.

Regarding Karl in particular...

He suddenly negates the drawback of a potentially large number of non-unique vampires and can influence out those at a rate of 1 per turn (without using transfers). There are plenty of ways to pump up his blood regain rate... The Rack for starters. He'd have the ability to defend it and with all of those little Madmen around, he could hit for 4+ without playing a card. I think he's more dangerous than he seems purely because he is the star of his own deck, like the Unnamed is. Consequently, I can concede he should probably have more disciplines (maybe or or even ... at some mixture) but I don't think he should be less than a 10-cap.

Get a grip, look at the power level of vampires from KoT first. Why sabbat should have it worse?

KoT had powerful vampires???

I've seen the princes/justicars/ICs used, and that's about it.

Haze wrote:

KoT had powerful vampires???

I've seen the princes/justicars/ICs used, and that's about it.

That's about it ? Those are vampires, and they are crazy good.

What about Gerald Windham ? He is not even titled.