file Card idea: Trust no One

16 Aug 2011 13:17 #8262 by Ankha
Name: Trust no One
Cardtype: Political Action
Successful referendum means each Methuselah burns 2 pool for each ally he or she controls.

Useful against full-ally decks (including Imbues). Useful in a Informant deck. Useless otherwise.

It should be better than the never-used Kindred Segregation.

Thoughts?

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16 Aug 2011 13:26 #8263 by jhattara
I'd say this is a prime example of bad card design.

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16 Aug 2011 13:41 #8265 by Pendargon
Well, better than kindred segregation. But still not totally sold.

Name: Trust no One
Cardtype: Political Action
Select one or more Methuselahs. Successful referendum means each chosen Methuselah burns 1 pool plus 2 additional pool for each ally he or she controls.

Like this, i feel, a copy of it would find a way in a political deck, as it gives you at least some pool damage to your prey even if he does not have allies, and prevents heavy damage cross-table just because they have, say, Mylan and carlton.

Text i just edited from Neonate breach, which functions in more-less same way, and is seeing playtime. B)

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16 Aug 2011 14:12 #8267 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Card idea: Trust no One

I'd say this is a prime example of bad card design.

If you don't say why you think it's a bad card design, it's not very interesting.

Well, better than kindred segregation. But still not totally sold.

Name: Trust no One
Cardtype: Political Action
Select one or more Methuselahs. Successful referendum means each chosen Methuselah burns 1 pool plus 2 additional pool for each ally he or she controls.

Like this, i feel, a copy of it would find a way in a political deck, as it gives you at least some pool damage to your prey even if he does not have allies, and prevents heavy damage cross-table just because they have, say, Mylan and carlton.

I like your version, so the card isn't totally useless if noone controls allies.

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16 Aug 2011 15:22 #8270 by Mael
Replied by Mael on topic Re: Card idea: Trust no One
I think it's terrible card design. Against an Imbued, Shabling Hordes, Nephandus, Kazars Diary, War Ghoul, etc type of deck, it could cause someone to instantly lose from a dominant position.
I have on several occasions seen (or had) ready regions of more than 10 allies, which would mean losing 20 pool to a single political action.
Neonate Breach can do a maximum of 4 pool damage.
The only other action I've seen that can potentially do as much damage is Revolutionary Council, but that requires a lot of setup on the part of the acting player.

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16 Aug 2011 16:09 #8280 by Pendargon
If imbued, Khazar or shambler player lose from a dominant position, i call that good! B)

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