Does Dabbler trigger on an ended action?

Hobbesgoblin wrote:

Ankha wrote:

Gr33n wrote:

During an action, a vampire with dabbler uses 3 disciplines.

Change of target is played.

Can dabbler trigger?

Please include cardtext when asking a question about a card.

Name: Dabbler
Cardtype: Master
Archetype. Trifle.
Put this card on a vampire you control. Once each turn, after an action (successful or not) is resolved during which this vampire used 3 or more Disciplines to play cards, this vampire can either burn 1 blood to unlock or gain 1 blood. A vampire can have only one archetype.

The answer is: No. Once the action ends, you cannot use effects that are usable during a action. "after an action (successful or not) is resolved" happens after resolution of the action.

This effect is not a delayed triggered effect that has to be resolved due to a previous condition met.

Gr33n wrote:

Dabbler not being an action modifier isn't a good enough argument in itself.

"after an action is resolved" and "after action resolution" seem to be the same window.

Correct.

I think this is in Clonflict with this ruling on Forward momentum:

Ankha wrote:

Oshi wrote:

For clarities sake which if the following would cause forward momentum to lose a counter:

1. bleed reduced to 0
2. bleed is blocked
3. action ends to change of target
4. bleed action card is cancelled by DI
5. bleed action is cancelled by tangle atropos' hand

1. burn (the bleed was not succesful)
2. burn (the bleed action was not succesful)
3. burn (idem)
4. Don’t burn (the action didn't reach resolution)
5. Don't burn (idem)

If Master Card effects that trigger/happen/areusable "after action resolution" need the action to still exist, forward momentum should not buurn a counter after change of target.

Hobbesgoblin wrote:

mipopo3 wrote:

KoRneeshon wrote:

No, it's "Once each turn, after an action (successful or not) is resolved during which this vampire used 3 or more Disciplines to play cards", you cannot use it in your discard or transfer phase, you have to use it right after an action (successful or not) is resolved. The "once each turn" indicates you can use this effect only once per turn, not that you can use it at any point of the turn.

Core Rulebook:
Action modifier cards: The acting minion can play these cards to modify their action at any time before action resolution.
Dabbler:
"Once each turn, after an action (successful or not) is resolved"
There is no time restriction after action resolution; the only restriction is the end of the turn.
There is no "in minion phase", "before untap"; there is no "after performing" restriction.
The only condition to be met is:
1) 3 Disciplines were used (action can be successful or not, but not canceled).
2) The turn didn't end.

There is a general ruling somewhere that says "after X" ins the point in time "immedeatly after X"