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03 Mar 2016 19:59 #75702 by Lönkka
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the combat deck needs...

Rush combat strategy must not be viable at all - it's bad for the game.

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04 Mar 2016 10:02 #75714 by elotar
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Playing game after game with just bleed and vote


No rush combat doesn't meen just bleed and vote.

Generally your text shows lack of understanding of the game in your group.

Playing with rush combat is simple - if you are his prey just don't bring out minions, if you are his predator deal as much pool damage as you could and then transfer out. Crappy dealing with combat aka "fooling bad players" works only if there are bad players and is totally not fun.

You can make rush part of some adequate strategy, like in eurobrujas, weenies bleeding for 2 with deep song e t.s, but it's, as was said already, already works just fine.

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04 Mar 2016 10:24 #75718 by GreyB
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Generally your text shows lack of understanding of the game in your group.


I'll be sure to mention it to my group(s), they'll have a few giggles I wager ;)

Rush combat strategy must not be viable at all - it's bad for the game.


Just repeating this sentence since it's such a gem of a statement.

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04 Mar 2016 10:32 #75720 by elotar

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04 Mar 2016 10:56 #75723 by Brum
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Aha, and why?

Card efficiency: Enkidu has a rush and a torn signpost built in.

Card efficiency: Nana and Nangila give you a hand size of 9, a rush and a master phase.

Nothing new here: combat decks are better with vampires that have a special related to combat.
It's the same for political decks too, it's easier to use titled vampires.


I don't agree with this at all, Vincent.
It is the same as saying "Commercial Jets need their engines working to travel. Nothing new there. Cars do as well".
If one's engine stops mid-travel, I think the airplane's failure is more catastrophic.

Combat as a strategy is farther from the win condition of the game than politics and bleed.
If any of these 3 strategies are working well and unopposed in a table by themselves, politics and bleed are winning.
That is not the case necessarily with combat.

Why to people put Beast in EuroBrujah?
Why was Fatima or Tariq the only viable real Assamite combat decks (on a supposed combat clan!)?

Combat needs that card effectiveness much more than the other archetypes.
Because it is farther from the win condition.
Because it creates craters in the place of players, but not necessarily wins VPs (for the player doing the craters).

Combat does not have enough winning rewards.
This is a system issue, not clan or disciplines. So clan or discipline cards will not solve the problem.

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