On how I hate Rego Motus

Celerity + Potence laugh at it.
Celerity + weapons laugh at it.
Celerity + Aggpoke smirks at it.
Animalism shrugs at it whilst calling birds.
Hell, determined Potence grits its teeth and punch you for 6. Sure, prevent 4, you still take 2 damage and I'll rip your arm of.

It's a good card to use when you expect to meet non-combat-centric combat.
It helps against combat-centric decks, but not by very much. I have no problem with it. Now, if it was the version of Rolling with the Punches, I would have issues with it, but that's not the case.

Lönkka wrote:

Two words:
Environmental damage


Also "inflict 3 unpreventable" should be "inflict 3 unpreventable with fortitude", n'est–ce pas?

Yup. But most people prevent with fortitude you know... The point was : they can negate weapon strikes too. While sucking your blood.

Environmental damage is what ? 90% of the time Carrion crows and Weather control.
If you steal 2 blood and prevent your opponent's strike, you should be okay...


I'm amazed so many people replied to my stupid rant by the way

Shadowhunter wrote:

Celerity + Potence laugh at it.

Depends on the deck, really.

Celerity + weapons laugh at it.

Not at all.
See "Blood fury" "Soul Burn".

Celerity + Aggpoke smirks at it.

A type of deck that does'nt work (discipline combo allows for nothing really good) and rarely sees play. But ok.

Animalism shrugs at it whilst calling birds.

But the trem can steal blood (better yet, steal 2 blood from the raven spy) and still be pretty safe. It's a 1 blood tradeoff. That's not what i would call shrugging :/

Hell, determined Potence grits its teeth and punch you for 6. Sure, prevent 4, you still take 2 damage and I'll rip your arm of.

Determined potence hitting for 6 ? If you opponent's deck can hit for 6, you are wise and stay at long range... Or you hitback for 3 not preventable by fortitude and torp the bugger. I can't imagine a scenario where the Tremere is not safe here ? :/

It's a good card to use when you expect to meet non-combat-centric combat.
It helps against combat-centric decks, but not by very much. I have no problem with it. Now, if it was the version of Rolling with the Punches, I would have issues with it, but that's not the case.

the problem lies as much in "it's a rather strong card" than in "i don't have to be creative". Which is the main point of this silly rant

Shadowhunter wrote:

Hell, determined Potence grits its teeth and punch you for 6. Sure, prevent 4, you still take 2 damage and I'll rip your arm of.

Or presses from Immortal Grapples. It's also worth noting that some forms of dedicated POT-combat are actually viable, while anything with more than a splash of THA-combat will suck. Even if Rego Motus does answer POT-combat card for card you can be sure that a good POT-deck will have more of those Immortal Grapples than a good THA-deck has Rego Motuses.

Suoli wrote:

It's also worth noting that some forms of dedicated POT-combat are actually viable, while anything with more than a splash of THA-combat will suck.

Not so sure... Dedicated THA combat is really really strong. Plus THA comes with nice disciplines in the same package (like " i see you" and " you no bleed me"). But everyone would have his own opinion here

Rego Motus doesn't make a huge difference in and of itself. The fact that it costs a blood and is only good against one strike each round make it only a bit better than glancing blow, and not all the time. How many people do you hear complaining about glancing blow being broken?

" make it only a bit better than glancing blow "

yeah, sure !