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A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
07 Jan 2013 14:51 #43742
by Louhi
Just want to quote this for emphasis. People are reading way too much into the Bahari trait simply because it has a name that can be traced in lore. It has a very clear purpose: to not be able to use Lilith's Blessing twice on the same minion.
If people are going to complain that Bahari is a useless trait, why not complain that Templar, Archon and Liaison are not further developed neither? These traits are more or less just a switch to further enable or disable something for that minion (counters or just putting a card on a minion is also common but can both also be interacted with, traits are definite switches). The game is riddled with these small traits that sometimes only interact with it's own cards, sometimes with a select few others. Mage, Cold Iron, Inquisitor, Dhampir (!) to add to the previous ones, and there's certainly more.
and Lilith's Blessing is not that good
Lidingö Scourge
Replied by Louhi on topic Re: A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
This not true. At no point was the intent to have Bahari actually mean something in the gane.
Just want to quote this for emphasis. People are reading way too much into the Bahari trait simply because it has a name that can be traced in lore. It has a very clear purpose: to not be able to use Lilith's Blessing twice on the same minion.
If people are going to complain that Bahari is a useless trait, why not complain that Templar, Archon and Liaison are not further developed neither? These traits are more or less just a switch to further enable or disable something for that minion (counters or just putting a card on a minion is also common but can both also be interacted with, traits are definite switches). The game is riddled with these small traits that sometimes only interact with it's own cards, sometimes with a select few others. Mage, Cold Iron, Inquisitor, Dhampir (!) to add to the previous ones, and there's certainly more.
and Lilith's Blessing is not that good
Lidingö Scourge
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08 Jan 2013 01:26 #43762
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
People focus on bahari to try changing lb. Even though simpler fixes are way more practical. Its cool fluff, but barely relevant except on a possible gehenna chronicle and with the lamia. So, it csn be left alone. Just makethe skill card mandatory and lifes easier.
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09 Jan 2013 11:59 #43799
by brm130
Replied by brm130 on topic Re: A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
Yeah, the more I think about it the mandatory skill card really seems like the best fix.
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09 Jan 2013 18:51 #43818
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
Absolutely. Many people read the card like that anyway.Yeah, the more I think about it the mandatory skill card really seems like the best fix.
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23 Apr 2013 11:32 #47451
by fojtik
Replied by fojtik on topic Re: A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
Lilith's Blessing is not so powerfull card. Problém is combo with Villein.
What about if Villein put Bahari counter on the vampire?
What about if Villein put Bahari counter on the vampire?
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23 Apr 2013 12:01 #47456
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: A proposition to change Lilith's Blessing and Anthelios
That would make no sense. From a fluff standpoint or a vtes mechanics standpoint.
The counter from liliths is to prevent one minion from becoming an infinate pool battery by bloating for ten or moreeach turn. Imagine if the counter wasnt placed onto the LB minion.
Turn one you play LB and put4 on Anson or Cybele or Nana. Turn2 you bring them out. Turn 3 you minion tap, liliths for protean, call q votes, pump it, minion tap to yoir full capacity of 9, pass the turn. Turn 4 play abombwe master then minion tap for 9, liliths for necro, call a votez, push cap, fill to new capacity of11. Next turn, abombwe, tap for 11, fetch quietus with liliths, call vote, push n cap, fill to new capacity of 13. Now just vote, tap, cap, gain blood from liliths.
The issue is liliths doesnt mandate the skill card. If it did, it would be a fetch engine yiu HAVE to villein or vessel to pull off, and work as intended.
Villein was in alot of decks and hurt other decks, so its already changed. Liliths is in alot of decks and only like 2% of them use it for anything other than cheating a free villein. Change LB and it becomes a skill fetcher, that issue is solved.
The counter from liliths is to prevent one minion from becoming an infinate pool battery by bloating for ten or moreeach turn. Imagine if the counter wasnt placed onto the LB minion.
Turn one you play LB and put4 on Anson or Cybele or Nana. Turn2 you bring them out. Turn 3 you minion tap, liliths for protean, call q votes, pump it, minion tap to yoir full capacity of 9, pass the turn. Turn 4 play abombwe master then minion tap for 9, liliths for necro, call a votez, push cap, fill to new capacity of11. Next turn, abombwe, tap for 11, fetch quietus with liliths, call vote, push n cap, fill to new capacity of 13. Now just vote, tap, cap, gain blood from liliths.
The issue is liliths doesnt mandate the skill card. If it did, it would be a fetch engine yiu HAVE to villein or vessel to pull off, and work as intended.
Villein was in alot of decks and hurt other decks, so its already changed. Liliths is in alot of decks and only like 2% of them use it for anything other than cheating a free villein. Change LB and it becomes a skill fetcher, that issue is solved.
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