Hear the rumor about the WoD Living Card Game?

Suoli wrote:

prunesquallor wrote:

(1) The game is good but isn't really compatible with old cards. This will be an awkward situation, but is it really so bad to have to sit and decide which of two really good games to play?

Half the playerbase migrates, V:TES stops getting new players as they are more attracted to a simpler game with official support. The rest of the playerbase then has the choice to either stick with the sinking ship and play 5-man tournaments for the rest of it's lifespan or dump nearly 20 years worth of cards in favor of a blank slate.

Don't count on half of playerbase migrating. I don't see death of v:tes just because similar game is released, just like i don't see death of magic just because wow is released. Most important (imo) v:tes problem is getting the cards, which make people quit or not try v:tes, not some new card game.

Lech wrote:

Suoli wrote:

prunesquallor wrote:

(1) The game is good but isn't really compatible with old cards. This will be an awkward situation, but is it really so bad to have to sit and decide which of two really good games to play?

Half the playerbase migrates, V:TES stops getting new players as they are more attracted to a simpler game with official support. The rest of the playerbase then has the choice to either stick with the sinking ship and play 5-man tournaments for the rest of it's lifespan or dump nearly 20 years worth of cards in favor of a blank slate.

Don't count on half of playerbase migrating. I don't see death of v:tes just because similar game is released, just like i don't see death of magic just because wow is released. Most important (imo) v:tes problem is getting the cards, which make people quit or not try v:tes, not some new card game.

I see one flaw in your logic.
Magic was huge when WoW ccg came out.
It has official support. It has a huge community. It attracts people with more reasons than VtES does. It allows for professional play. It has new cards and formats regularly.


VtES is just the best multiplayer CCG ever conceived by man.
Apart from that we are on our own.

Make no mistake about it. If:
1- a new game comes out that isn't compatible with VtES cards.
2- takes away from us the possibility to keep developing new expansions.
3- competes with VtES for new players.
... VtES is dead.

hmmm... maybe PCK get interested in this new game and move their shenanigans there.

Brum wrote:

Make no mistake about it. If:
1- a new game comes out that isn't compatible with VtES cards.
2- takes away from us the possibility to keep developing new expansions.
3- competes with VtES for new players.
... VtES is dead.

Add :
4 - have a lasting success.

Brum wrote:

I see one flaw in your logic.
Magic was huge when WoW ccg came out.
It has official support. It has a huge community. It attracts people with more reasons than VtES does. It allows for professional play. It has new cards and formats regularly.


VtES is just the best multiplayer CCG ever conceived by man.
Apart from that we are on our own.

Make no mistake about it. If:
1- a new game comes out that isn't compatible with VtES cards.
2- takes away from us the possibility to keep developing new expansions.
3- competes with VtES for new players.
... VtES is dead.

hmmm... maybe PCK get interested in this new game and move their shenanigans there.

1. No big deal, it's just a different game like thousand others.
2. I don't think so. VEKN may still be able to keep developing new expansions, it may be just more problematic to PRINT actual cards.
3. Like every other cg.

VtES is just as undead as it was before. New game can be boon just as likely as it can be burden.

Lech wrote:

1. No big deal, it's just a different game like thousand others.

Based on the rumours posted here, it's not a different game like a thousand others. It's repurposed V:TES. Yes, it will attempt to leech players specifically from the V:TES playerbase. It would be an idiotic business move not to. This thread is basically about gauging to what extent the players are willing to migrate.

VtES is just as undead as it was before. New game can be boon just as likely as it can be burden.

Only if it turns out to be a) V:TES lite, an introductory course for real V:TES or b) backwards compatible. I don't see any other way V:TES could benefit from it.

Brum wrote:

hmmm... maybe PCK get interested in this new game and move their shenanigans there.

Deflection! Redirection! B-)

PCK is pretty open about what we are doing. If you want to learn more, check out our blog at pckvtes.wordpress.com or follow us on twitter @pck_vtes.