Lilith's Blessing : Propositions for a new text

Lilith's Blessing
Master
1 pool
Put this card in play. While this card is in play your vampires may take a hunt action at +1 stealth to search your library for a Master Discipline which can be played on the vampire. If the action is successful put the Discipline card on the vampire, the vampire gains 1 blood, untaps and is now Infernal.

Lilith's Blessing [Revised Version]
Master
1 pool
Put this card in play. While this card is in play your vampires may take a hunt action at +1 stealth to search your library for a Master Discipline which can be played on the vampire. If the action is successful put the Discipline card on the vampire, the vampire gains 1 blood.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Lilith's Blessing
Master
1 pool
Put this card in play. While this card is in play your vampires may take a hunt action at +1 stealth to search your library for a Master Discipline which can be played on the vampire. If the action is successful put the Discipline card on the vampire, the vampire gains 1 blood, untaps and is now Infernal.

That would be completely unplayable. Discpline masters are hardly played even without getting one making you infernal.

Klaital wrote:

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Lilith's Blessing
Master
1 pool
Put this card in play. While this card is in play your vampires may take a hunt action at +1 stealth to search your library for a Master Discipline which can be played on the vampire. If the action is successful put the Discipline card on the vampire, the vampire gains 1 blood, untaps and is now Infernal.

That would be completely unplayable. Discpline masters are hardly played even without getting one making you infernal.

Klaital,
Is that because you see the purpose of Lilith's Blessing being about "Getting 3 blood without an action or pool cost". Because if so, that's entirely the thing I like least about Lilith's. I'd concede to removing the Infernal cost and ditch the untap... but the Infernal is part of the Bahari idea (since Bahari is basically a specialised Infernal in the Lore AFAIK) and the Untap is about making it effectively not cost 1 pool if you are successful.

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Klaital wrote:

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Lilith's Blessing
Master
1 pool
Put this card in play. While this card is in play your vampires may take a hunt action at +1 stealth to search your library for a Master Discipline which can be played on the vampire. If the action is successful put the Discipline card on the vampire, the vampire gains 1 blood, untaps and is now Infernal.

That would be completely unplayable. Discpline masters are hardly played even without getting one making you infernal.

Klaital,
Is that because you see the purpose of Lilith's Blessing being about "Getting 3 blood without an action or pool cost". Because if so, that's entirely the thing I like least about Lilith's. I'd concede to removing the Infernal cost and ditch the untap... but the Infernal is part of the Bahari idea (since Bahari is basically a specialised Infernal in the Lore AFAIK) and the Untap is about making it effectively not cost 1 pool if you are successful.

Not really......

The lore for lilith is shes not infernal/the wyrm/ serving oblivion/ demon affiliated. Shes not good, she hates caine, but infernalism is entirely different. The lamia were bahari, so is brujah in one gehenna ending. Bahari could easily be redlist. Infernal isnt as cool.

Lb may as well stay banned if it makez yiu infernal.

It could just give a vamp at half capacity or less a discipline card. Thats its function. Once each game a vampire gets a skill card frm yiur deck.

Also, i feel changing as few words as possible is ideal.
Rwquire the skill card. Make bahari redlist. Even both. Infernal makes it useless.

If the point is to lessen the pool gain...

Put this card in play. As your first master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari.

This would not be my first choice, So I will not submit it.

or

Put this card in play. As a master phase action, you may tap this card to search your library for a master: Discipline card and choose a ready non-Bahari vampire you control who has no blood. That vampire gains the Discipline card (if any) and 3 blood and becomes Bahari. Tap this vampire.

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Also, i feel changing as few words as possible is ideal.
Rwquire the skill card. Make bahari redlist. Even both. Infernal makes it useless.

You can't really make Bahari also Redlisted without editing the Rulebook. I doubt that Pascal plans rulebook edits as a result from this process.