What is missing from VtES?
03 Jun 2017 21:04 - 03 Jun 2017 21:05 #82102
by Lönkka
I sort of understand why someone using Majesty etc could escape the First Strike with Combat End, but any old slowpoke using Dodge is able to thwart someone who is quicker than a speeding bullet!? :/
Replied by Lönkka on topic What is missing from VtES?
Indeed... and a dodge still cancels the effects of a strike done with first strike.First Strike is confusing because Strike: Combat Ends resolves before it.
I sort of understand why someone using Majesty etc could escape the First Strike with Combat End, but any old slowpoke using Dodge is able to thwart someone who is quicker than a speeding bullet!? :/
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03 Jun 2017 22:06 #82104
by TwoRazorReign
Replied by TwoRazorReign on topic What is missing from VtES?
Below is how first strike works in Magic: The Gathering:
"This creature deals combat damage before creatures without first strike"
My theory is the confusion stems from this definition of first strike. Most people learned to play Magic before V:TES. First strike not actually being "first" doesn't sit well with some people because of this preconceived notion of first strike. First strike should be called something else in V:TES.
"This creature deals combat damage before creatures without first strike"
My theory is the confusion stems from this definition of first strike. Most people learned to play Magic before V:TES. First strike not actually being "first" doesn't sit well with some people because of this preconceived notion of first strike. First strike should be called something else in V:TES.
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04 Jun 2017 07:48 #82105
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic What is missing from VtES?
Sure, something like "Fast strike" or "Quick strike"First strike should be called something else in V:TES.
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06 Jun 2017 11:14 #82120
by Lönkka
Replied by Lönkka on topic What is missing from VtES?
I'm "confused" about it and I certainly am missing theMtG baggage...
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06 Jun 2017 13:51 #82125
by self biased
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because the same term in two different games obviously should work the same way?
I mean, I don't get it either.
I mean, I don't get it either.
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06 Jun 2017 15:06 #82126
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Who's arguing that they should work the same way? I'm arguing that calling it "first strike" makes sense in MtG (because it is first) but doesn't make sense in VTES (because it is not first). So call it something else.
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because the same term in two different games obviously should work the same way?
I mean, I don't get it either.
Who's arguing that they should work the same way? I'm arguing that calling it "first strike" makes sense in MtG (because it is first) but doesn't make sense in VTES (because it is not first). So call it something else.
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